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	Artyom	2013-08-26 , 07:46
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman

I probably bought more Symbian devices than all of you combined on this thread. It served its purpose and by 2009, it was clear to everyone that it had to gooooooooooo...........Only Tomi Ahonen and his delusional followers still believe that it was viable. What saved NOKIA, as opposed to BB, is that they reacted a bit faster to become third player. BB reacted too slow and hanged on its improved, but dead platform. Because you cant live with just an OS, without all the ancillary ecosystem.

you probably didn't. just bought a crappy 5800 and whine about how symbian is so bad and so ugly and how it should be replaced. on the other hand i've been using symbian handsets since the 7650 days.
so all the numbers are lying is this what you're trying to tell here? nokia was a huge company back in 2010, you came in and simply destroyed the company for the sake of microsoft and windows phone mr. elop.
i don't follow tomi ahonen, in fact i already knew back in 2011 that symbian was a very viable choice as a mid range smartphone os. it could crush android at that area. nokia 603 was a great example for that. but instead of making capable symbian devices mr elop chose to make uncapable dumbphone devices. and now we are seeing the results.

if you are an extreme optimist yeah being a third player with ~3% is a good thing.

Originally Posted by Lumiaman

What did Samsung prove? That pre-ELOP NOKIA should have jumped sooner of the Symbian titanic. By the time Elop got there, Android has signed up many device manufacturers and Finns felt they didnt want to be another ME, ME, ME kind of company. Samsung jumped first and is benefitting now. Kudos to them. What else are they doing? Tizen-what a joke.

The biggest mistake that nokia did. Buying symbian. now people like you come here and badger about how other companies adopted android and how they benefitted.
If tizen successes i will remind you those words.

Originally Posted by Lumiaman

What Elop immediately understood is the following: NOKIA is not a software company, in the sense that they CAN NOT compete with Silicon Valley. And that immediately eliminated Symbian, Meego and all the other lunacies from the table. So you are left with already crowded Android field, or try something new and nascent. Hence WP. Using my Lumia 920 and 620. Great phones!!!

Yes they can compete. They showed it by dominating the phone world for years. With symbian. If you can't see the fact go jump off a bridge. Some guy stealing their technology and making a touchscreen device will not change that fact.
That's how the "silicon valley" hate symbian. They envy it. They couldn't eliminate it so they sent someone from the inside to do the job. Which cost them at least a couple of billions.

MeeGo was unlucky. Mr elop announced lumai 800 3 months after N9. Bu it still sold more than lumai 800 and 900 combined. Such a shame that you rigged the race and didn't let the clear winner win mr. elop.

Last edited by Artyom; 2013-08-26 at 08:15.

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