i said it was going to end correct, in favor of meego smartphones which would be a similar but more simplified, better innovative experience. but i didn't said it was bad or a dead man walking which some people like you wrongly think. the smartphone subscriptions were growing day by day and there was plenty of room for alternatives like iphone like android etc. symbian didn't lose as much as people thought, simply smartphone numbers grow. compare the numbers of smartphones used today and back in 2007 mr. delusional elop. please answer me this, if symbian died with iphone, how did it survive to have the most market share up untill 2010-2011 where elop burned the platform? when shares hit rock bottom in one night and never could recover after that hit. So besides the US everywhere is third world? That's a nice observation from you keep it up.