I am a simple guy. All I know is this: a single digit number, says 5 is much less than 100. As in most things in life, more is better. So, under Mr Elop's leadership, Nokia latest sale were under 10M; Nokia sale in 2009-2010 were 100M. So, on sale # alone, Elop is not doing too hot. So, let me think... Nokia went from being able to sell 100M units to below 10M, and other Android phone(say Samsung) went from 10M(my guess) to 90M(saw this # somewhere). if you can call Nokia's result is a improvement/a turn-around, Wow...what a concept,. If Nokia was very dead before Elop, then do I have to believe that Nokia is MUCH better now because they are having 10x less sale and putting themself up for sale is a good thing. By the way, it seems that you like to change the channel again by talking about BB's numbers. If you believe Nokia under Elop is doing better than before Mr. Elop's management? Then I guess you are wearing a much better rose-colored lens than I. Well, it is a 'free' internet ; you are entitled to what you think. Cheers,