Its interesting, that pro-Symbian forces still thrive at Maemo. Its like the militias in Utah, Idaho and few other states, still glorifying the US past, and unaccepting of diversity and inevitability of change.....wake up guys, NOKIA was simply run over by superior forces. NOTHING would have changed the outcome, NOTHING. Blackberry is in the same boat, NOTHING, I mean NOTHING, can help blackberry either. They fell behind, they were content, fat, rich and non competitive. The now Jolla members were just a bunch of lazy coders who couldnt deliver.