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Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
They switched to iOS and Android from what existed prior - mostly Symbian, BlackBerry and Windows Mobile. This new cycle that the majority is in currently is bound to wind down too. Then what?
Yes. I was expecting to use this example history of recent migrations as an example of the reason on why you don't need a large `application baggage' to be a successful platform. In my opinion, thus, having Android applications does not imply or is even a necessary condition for reviewers ditching their `preciouss'.

Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
The part about less itches to scratch... man, tell me about it. I think it's an isolation tactic that's counterproductive in terms of having native apps or rarely seen/used apps because it's not popular here but overlooking the popularity elsewhere.
Obviously, because you are cutting off the emulation, the net result of the isolationist tactic is that you have less access to popular and not-that-popular programs. I fully acknowledge there is a tradeoff here. The benefit is that, because such lack of access to popular programs implies more demand for native programs, there are more native programs.

I am realistic: if you're interested in having access to as many programs as possible, then I'm certain the emulator strategy will work much better for you. But precisely because you will be content, you will not call as much for native applications (e.g. to developers on this forum) and the net result is less native applications. Therefore, (a) `isolationists' lose (b) Jolla loses.

Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
And by "friggin' miracle", you mean money, right? Money (and marketshare) will deliver a native app. Folks not using Android could be a blessing - they'll end up writing native apps that take advantage of the UI only if they think it'll be well-received, well-used and they can make money and/or grab marketshare they've been shut out of before.
Yes, money and marketshare deliver native applications. There are two plausible scenarios:
a) Jolla device ends up getting money and marketshare
b) Jolla device never gets money and marketshare

By my first point on this post, I'm going to assume that shipping an emulation layer does not have an impact on whether a or b is most probable (debatable). If (a) happens, then it does not matter whether you destroyed demand for native applications by shipping an emulator -- you will have native applications either way. So win win situation.
If (b) happens, which is, IMHO, the most probable, then only hobbists will be the ones actually developing for the platform. In this case, and by arguments in my previous post, you've basically killed your platform by shipping an emulator. Or at a minimum, you've made it way less enticing for hobbists to develop native applications for the platform.

Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
Sadly, the way that anything popular is shunned here, say goodbye to native Instagram, Skype, Vine and a few others because well... nobody here would use it, the market that owns a Jolla phone also would rather use Diaspora, Tox.im, and something else (lord I forgot the name of that pic sharing web app, M-something).
While I would personally shun Instagram, Skype, Vine and the like, you cannot argue that there is development and demand for these applications in this very forum. A good example of that is.... (see below)

Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
If Whatsapp was there on day one, we'd complain about it then too. It's closed source, it's not secure, it's not interfaced by terminal... I can continue.
And despite my complains it happened, and there was demand for it.

And thus I lost a bit more faith in humanity, but that's another story.
 

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