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Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
Right. Order # and status of order.
Sure, but all that goes to the status of the order. I guess it is up to the moderators to enforce what they see as relevant, but personally I think a thread with merely status numbers would be quite pointless without any analysis. Those taking the effort to analyze and summarize in my opinion provide great service to other readers of threads like this.

Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
Just as you could have ignored mine. Silly point. This is a forum, and people tend to exchange opinions in forums.
Of course. Then again, originally - as you recall - I actually took my time to explain to you in good faith what Kabouik was talking about. Only afterwards it dawned on me that your entire point was simply to bully Kabouik, not really to seek clarification or add anything to the conversation except ridicule.

Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
I was - and still am - flabbergasted by the fact that somebody takes hours of his life to construct a theory why orders are being processed in one particular way and not another... and what might be the cause. It astounds me because it does not matter at all as long as they are being processed.
I doubt it took hours of someone's life to construct a theory. Some people are perceptive by nature and also write very fast. I had already come up with the same conclusion, from my own experience and by following various news sources. We have probably wasted more time bickering over this than Kaboiuk spent on writing his message that you originally responded to.

Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
And this is what I, my dear fellow forum user, take as my right here. Say that something is... at least unexpected. That's far from bullying.
I disagree. The way you said it wasn't an expression of disagreement, to me it seemed like an attempt at ridicule.

Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
As far as I understood, they had major difficulties so the shipments started late and still can only be kept up with a lot more effort than they had planned. (I thank all those sailors for their work.) Reason could be anything from a subcontractor going out of business to inadequate timing on Jolla's side. None of the reasons I could possibly think of are of the kind a professional company would make public.
Sure, the reasons might be anything and some might be confidential beyond reproach. Then again, a professional company also wouldn't have messed things up like this either.

Jolla have asked for our sympathy because they are just starting up, learning, and they have also expressed their unlikeness to other companies. If so, acting like it in their communication might make that sympathy a lot easier for other people.

Giving out more information would certainly go a long way to boosting their image as a community-oriented, open company. They could still do it quite professionally, simply by cutting out the PR mumbo jumbo and replacing it with a bit more actual information. Nobody is asking them to do it in an unprofessional manner or break confidentiality agreements.

Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
Why someone takes so much time and effort to establish theories about the sequence in which shipments are being processed and its relation to the pre-orders as well as the actual payments (the latter being the mysterious part) is still way, way beyond me.
Why would it be strange? That is absolutely normal fare for any pre-order tracking discussion of any product in the history of the universe. What's the point of threads like this, if they are not used to generate insight that people deem helpful? I think Kabouik offered a very plausible theory, one that aligns greatly with my own experience. If you think the theory is wrong, feel free to point otherwise of course.

Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
OTOH - what's even more of a "WTF did I just read" is this whole conversation we're having. Why did I let you make me explain my short and meaningless interjection of astonishment?
Originally I was trying to help you, because it seemed like you didn't understand what Kabouik wrote. I think your astonishment was misplaced and miscommunicated. You disagree and that's fine of course.
 

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