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Originally Posted by epmt View Post
Jolla is not "every company". They say they want to be Unlike. They are a small startup with a technical early adopter community to address and whose support they wish to enlist. Treating them like "every company" is not, in my opinion, a wise move. I think Jolla is already getting far more bad press and badwill than they would have been by being just a little more open. You disagree and that's fine.

I'm also not trying to make this sound bigger than it is. This is a Jolla order tracking thread, hence we discuss it. I don't think Jolla's future hinges on any of this stuff at all (it is the big things it hinges on), but they haven't been community oriented about this and I think it would have been wise of them to have been. I think it would have been a good move by Jolla to have been more open and honest in this particular early adopter scenario.
This opinion of mine would present cybette's participation in this thread and on twitter as being about as open as I would expect them to be without taking unnecessary risks. So far I haven't seen any press articles about this, because I think the whining on this forum is taken with a pinch of salt.

Originally Posted by epmt View Post
By the way, they don't teach argumentation in Finnish schools (they probably should) - where I hail from - so it wasn't a schoolboy point from me. It was something experience has unfortunately taught me - and too many recent arguments in this thread have fallen under them. It is frustrating, because it helps nobody, other than perhaps helping to diminish the other person and their argument.

In similar vein, you just had to try an make me sound like schoolboy or childish perhaps, would you accept that as an attempted ad hominem?
An important thing to remember about argument logic trolls is that they usually get far too carried away with picking out phrases that could be construed as fallacies, and don't bother to think about whether the fallacy was used to support the argument or not, and claim to invalidate the whole argument regardless. If I'd called you childish for demanding more information from Jolla, then you could have the ad hominem...
You shouldn't give in so easily
 

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