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Originally Posted by Philippe View Post
First of all you probably should learn to read and not draw conclusions based on misquotes or misunderstandings of certain statements
That goes both ways. Please learn how to address the public - especially when you're being questioned rightly or wrongly so. And how to read (see below) content as it's may be meant, not how you may have taken it. I inquired simply if any testing had happened. Then I raised concern and elevated inquiry to doubt. I don't mind admitting that I might be wrong - prove it to be such the case. But my tone is acceptable; so should yours.

Secondly it is not because there is a Mac OS X beta that we are running it.
I think you misunderstood. Mac OS X Mavericks was in beta for a almost a year. Either you ran it or not. That's a yes/no answer. But that's not where my concern was located.

As it stands, OS X Mavericks... was it ever tested? Release or beta? Not that you were running under beta, was it tested in any version was the question.

Thirdly if a widely trusted and used MTP application works for all MTP devices out there, and also works for us why would we not use it?
Good question that I honestly do not have an answer to; only the aforesaid samples of BlackBerry with their BlackBerry Link application and the (now broken) Android connectivity application that the Mavericks (10.9) update had broken.

Four, Apple did broke this widely used app...
They broke Android. I can still sync my BlackBerry Z10 without incident. I can still view the contents of my microSD card too. The point I made was that if BlackBerry could do it, so could you. The "how", I am personally unsure. In fact, just tested the Microsoft Windows Phone OS X app, it works too. Syncs without incident - but it's never truly ever given access to the file system.

If you want me to investigate anything any more, I'm more than capable and willing to do so. And I have access to many OS X machines from 10.6 to 10.9.

...most likely on purpose to annoy owners of non-apple products and give their fanboys something to brag about. (Maybe because most Android and WP phones, a shitload of non-apple music players, etc use MTP these days and they hope this will force people to buy Apple gear?)
This is speculation. I've personally don't see the need or see any gain in discussing this when my concern was simply about the fact if/if not testing on OS X had ever occurred.

Don't you think we noticed it was broken, but what could we do? Beg Apple to do the fair and honest thing? Develop a client for an OS nobody knows anything much about out of the blue a few weeks before release?
So you use a distro I've honestly never have heard about, yet you regard OS X as an operating system that nobody knows about? I hope that I'm misreading this statement.

Regardless, understand that your patrons might use operating systems that you'll never properly touch yet... they are your patrons. 16 years of development, I've had to extend to support esoteric operating systems like AIX, IRIX (SGI), HP-UX, (way too many versions of) BSD to versions of Windows I've never heard about - Windows XP Embedded for instance. I've done so begrudgingly so, on devices and applications that saw less exposure than your product and I know the rigors of testing.

It's not fun but it's part of the job.

And when I doubt/inquire/question if something has been tested, it's for a real good reason. No need for vitriol, just answer the question if you can. If you cannot, that's also fine as well.

Regardless; good luck on your endeavors, understand that the user might have/require different things than yourself and if you take it personal, you shouldn't have because that is not how I meant it. So I apologize if you took it personal.

I just doubt the depth of testing across platforms at this moment. Still do.

Last edited by gerbick; 2013-12-19 at 21:56. Reason: Misspelled a word