That's a poor analogy, in what way was Jussi one of the keystone members of the organisation, please tell me, did he drive it from the very beginning, & does he continue to do so? How are Marc & Tomi "copy cats", they each have their distinct roles, especially Marc form the earliest days (also a founding member -mind you)... And how are they "riding the easy wave" in the wake of Jussi, I think that would be very offensive to them, you have lots of explaining to do, Dave...