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	Win7Mac	2014-07-15 , 18:53
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Originally Posted by jalyst

A better Qn perhaps;
What are the chances of liability being proven, what are ALL the ways in which it could come unstuck & .: linkages be clearly made between HiFo & 3rd-party host(s)?

HiFo is the legal owner and operator of *.maemo.org and its' infra. This was settled in the agreement with Nokia and will be in effect when our obligations have been fulfillied and approved by Nokia which still holds all trademark rights. The agreement basically is a lifetime license to use the trademark and sadly prohibits HiFo from providing images and flasher tools, no matter the server or domain name. So no, we cannot hire or pay for a 3rd-party host.

Originally Posted by jalyst

If after doing thorough analysis there it's clear that the risk is too great, then perhaps we need to look at dismantling HiFo in the US, & re-establishing it elsewhere?

This is not exactly an US-specific issue and HiFo is just about to dissolve into a german "eingetragener Verein".
All rights and assets from HiFo will be handed over the new Maemo Community e.V. once the registration at court is completed.

Originally Posted by jalyst

BUT, before we do any of that, we should try (just once more) to:
(1) Confirm that Nokia definitely no longer has hosting rights...
(2) If they don't, then we ask MS (once more) if they can continue to host.
(3) If Nokia has rights, ask them (once more) if they can help by hosting (perhaps HiFo can pay them for bandwidth/infra etc).

(1) Nokia would the only one with hosting rights...

(2) maemo was not part of the MS-deal, all maemo-related rights remain at Nokia Finland
(3) Nokia has no interests anymore in the maemo OS or helping our community, sadly.

And I would rather like to see this discussion/thread in "community" or "general" then in off-topic since it's quite important.

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