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Originally Posted by woody14619 View Post
It's been discussed in TMO a few places, mainly threads where people were asking for where to get the images when the documented site went down (tablets-dev.nokia.com). It was discussed in Council meetings as well, and in the general channel on IRC. There has also been ample discussion of it among techstaff, as they were involved in fixing and then disabling the parts of the system that allowed access when Nokia made the legal request. It was even discussed on the official Nokia help board.

I could see where a casual forum reader could have missed most/all of the discussion. But then most also missed that there was an election, despite being bannered, stickied, and discussed for over a month.
The images have been off-line for over 6 months, and were out about as long during initial migration. If that didn't draw the attention of a casual forum reader, I'm not sure how else to do so.
Thanks. I certainly did not miss the discussions of the images being no longer hosted by Nokia, and certainly not that we couldn't host them ourselves, but what I missed was the "why", especially any official comment by HiFo, or even by CC (I don't believe that happened, right?) Of course there were rumors, speculations, FUD, etc... that I heard here and there on TMO and IRC (mainly logs, since I don't hang in IRC much in real-time.)

I think I now understand the issue, and completely support the HiFo actions up to this point. Image hosting is off the table, but trademark use and domain ownership/stewardship is most likely going to happen, which is very good and probably more than some people even thought might be the outcome.

Images will always be available, in the darker regions of the net, for sure, so I am not too worried about that personally (besides, I downloaded the image(s) I would need awhile back.)

On the image issue, it seems to me there is a way forward:

- post a list of image filenames and hashes on the wiki (with no links of course), so that if a person were to find an image on-line somewhere themselves, or after asking in TMO or in IRC, the can verify that the image is genuine. (I believe this list of hashes already exists, so maybe just need to be posted in the wiki.)

- strip out all 3rd party and nokia code from the image, and create a completely FOSS image that we can host.

Last edited by shawnjefferson; 2014-07-17 at 04:26.
 

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