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pango	2014-09-01 , 09:55
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Originally Posted by nodevel

Honestly, I don't see the point in making examples out of companies with unknown profit and uncertain future.

Before you jump in and say "but that's the same with Jolla", let me stop you - of course it is, but that's not the point.

You are trying to support your hypothesis, that 'more transparency helps companies (like Jolla) to be successful'. Then I think that only providing an example of a company that was more transparent and also successful is relevant.

That includes the suggestion that their transparency would somehow be linked to their uncertainty. Fairphone and Jolla both face uncertain futures for a number of reasons. I doubt transparency will make or kill either one of them, but then I have never argued that either.

What I am arguing is transparency would improve community relations and early adopter enthusiasm - and for me it is easy to see how that would be helpful for Jolla at this early stage. It won't make or break their business, bigger things will do that, but it can help or hurt their business depending on how their community relations go.

Originally Posted by nodevel

Others (including myself) have provided examples of larger (&successful) companies with less transparency and you might argue that 'when those were at the SMB stage, as Jolla is, they were much more open than Jolla and that is the reason of their later success' but then feel free to provide an example of a company that was more open and turned successful later.

Are you asking because you are curious or because you believe they don't exist? If not the latter, then the question is pretty pointless.

It seems like you are fixated on examples, rather than pondering the points I am making above. Do you not believe transparency improves community relations? Do you not believe Jolla could do better than they do now in that regard? Do you not believe any company does better?

One guy said here on this thread, no company ever goes into any such detail in public. Has anything changed in this thread after I offered Toyota and now Fairphone as clear examples to the contrary? No. I guess the guy still believes no company ever does that.