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Originally Posted by JulmaHerra View Post
Example you offered doesn't seem to prove it.
I disagree. I see people getting info and calming down. But most importantly it is an example of one organization doing what many here thought impossible.

Originally Posted by JulmaHerra View Post
I'm not opposed to Jolla being transparent. I'm opposed to bitching about it on issues that cannot be affected by community in any way, but that have potential to become destructive for Jolla. We can look at it as being realistic (me) and being overtly optimistic (you) about human behavior. I'm more into no-nonsense information that can actually be used to something creative, in a way that doesn't harm Jolla's business.
No-nonsens info sounds good. My problem is that we mostly get fluff nonsense platitudes from Jolla. And I don't think I'm bitching about it either. I am offering feedback, again I was sucked in to this thread when people objected to me liking jalyst's post on page 3. It is a good post, yet people ignore his point.

Originally Posted by JulmaHerra View Post
It's not a false argument. You don't seem to think beyond those "few updates" (which were given). One update spawns ten requests for more updates, then other update spawns another ten more and so on and so forth... and for what purpose? As a firewood for even more bitching, possibly tarnishing company's reputation in the eyes of those potential customers that are not "community members"? Mind you that over there there are plenty of people who just love that kind of information for mud slinging (yes, they exist even outside the community).
Again, there is a balance to be struck. Now we had no info and it was clearly by choice, not so much trying and failing. I would recommend a middle-road for Jolla. Again, Fairphone seems to manage.

Originally Posted by JulmaHerra View Post
As far as I remember, they were all handling those deliveries. Even CEO. And again, no amount of status updates would have sufficed, but being stained of people handling the deliveries it would have caused delays.
I sincerely doubt that e.g. Marc was doing the deliveries full time. Most likely much of the work was outsourced. cybette anyway had time to post chitchat here throughout the process. What if she had posted info instead?