Out of curiosity, why finding consensus with said person is even necessary? Not that I'm against consensus or mediation, but history has proven - since any attempts to mediate between him and SD69 - that it's a pure waste of time. I remember trying to mediate myself, and all concern joerg ever had was that I might be "running the show, now". Presumably, stealing from him Really, that person lives in completely different realm of existence. Don't bother. If consensus with joerg as a must, then we can already pack things and turn lights out. Otherwise, if indeed he is the only one trying to block things in the Board/Council, just push changes over him via majority of votes, please. The sooner that person is kept away from any organizational things related to Maemo, the bigger chance for survival of Community, in any form. Back to my question from last post: Any roadmap with dates of changes being applied/voting dates, etc? I hope we're talking about real changes with realistic deadlines, not just getting another topic to prove who is responsible for the mess. We know the latter, already, now it's time to move on. /Estel