I'd be shocked if they've sold more than 25k so far, and that's being extremely generous. Given the lack of community activity or interest, and lack of app downloads, if they have achieved that kind of number or in excess of it, then the percentage of inactive phones / users must be MONUMENTALLY high ... and I think we already know it is very high.

I guess it's possible with the sales by DNA in Finland they've exceeded it ... but it just doesn't seem to tally with activity. I visited Finland this summer and went into a couple of DNA shops ... neither had Jollas. Never saw any Finns in Helsinki with Jollas, and most people I talked to casually had no idea what it was (they thought it was an old or maybe unreleased Nokia) when they took notice of the phone. They had no idea what Sailfish was, though all knew of or remembered the N9 / Meego. A couple of more tech savvy people did recognise it, but said they almost never saw people with them, and were amazed that a foreigner had one.

Re: Jolla employees using non-Jolla phones to tweet or as their personal / business phone. Is anyone surprised? Between basic, necessary features still being missing (copy-paste, voicemail notifications etc), terrible connectivity problems when roaming, the awful battery life, and poor e-mail .. it's not exactly a great companion for professionals working in the tech industry, or any industry.

It's not about it being a 'proper Linux OS'. It's just Sailfish, for many people who've bought Jollas or others who might be interested simply isn't viable as a main phone yet, and the hardware is poor quality and low specced which further compounds problems.

I suspect most 'interest in proper Linux' will go straight to Ubuntu once it's released, unless Jolla actually come up with a selling point for Sailfish, or there's widespread adoption by Chinese OEMs. The Meizu MX4, which will receive an Ubuntu ROM in December, and be sold in an Ubuntu version (as opposed to Android) has already had pre-orders exceed 10million. If 1/100 people install and stick with Ubuntu, that's 100,000 users just from the preorders, on one phone (first of many). I really, really don't like the UI and web-appiness that Ubuntu Phone currently has, but Canonical are much more open about development, direction and what's being implemented than Jolla, and whilst the Ubuntu Edge's PR campaign was horrifically mismanaged, their PR machine is much bigger and much smoother than Jolla's, and if they get the mobile flavour into reasonable shape, I'm sure many Ubuntu / Linux desktop users will happily migrate to it.

On the flip side ... Ubuntu and the MX4 ROM run on Libhybris, so porting Sailfish to it *should* be very easy and relatively problem free ... and it's a superb piece of hardware.