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Originally Posted by Boemien View Post
To Wicket, it seems that your are supporting the Neo900 project. I'm not GOOD at computer/linux things, but i like the tweaking side of the N900 (you know, trying to boot android, ubuntu, ED). Well, the idea is very cool. Regarding the specs, what kind of Os can we install on the device?
And what about telephony capability? I mean, can we boot for example a linux distro (ubuntu and all its derivatives) and install a kind of software to have telephony capability (calls, sms, 3G) ? Or how will this work ?

Edit. I'm reading this thread http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91308
Planned OS's for the Neo900 include Fremantle (as you've already discovered), Debian, SHR and Replicant (free version of Android). Regarding the specs, it will have 1GB RAM (the same amount as the N9 and Jolla) and a SoC that's slightly more capable than the N9's. That should give you some idea.

All of these OS's should have full telephony capabilities (calls, SMS and data including 4G!). For regular, Linux the most common telephony software stacks are FSO and oFono, both of which are available in the software repositories of most distros.

Originally Posted by Estel View Post
Somehow, I was 100% sure, that you will answer to my post I'm deeply touched by the fact that you won't accuse me of trolling for having my own opinion on the matter.

On a more serious note, though - I respect your opinion, of course. But I think that what most Maemo people expects from Neo900 is to run mature mobile computer/phone hybrid stack on it (aka, fremantle, with or without additional 'e'), not openmoko, or any other OS (be it Debian) that doesn't have very good mobile capabilities.

In my opinion, the only one OS and UI that offer true *NIX possibilities, being very mobile friendly at the same time, is fremantle. Other things are either shifted too much into mobile, or are desktop things, not suitable for usage as a phone.

Thus, I guess that good cooperation between Maemo and any_project_aiming_to_replace_n900 require good cooperation with Maemo officials. (hint - take note where Neo900 name comes from). I don't expect that to happen, for reasons mentioned in last post.

Also, about FUD - Maemo's leadership is in very good shape, and have mature roadmap of what to do next. The only "messed" part of Maemo's leadership was, not incidentally, Neo900's project leader's dictatorship attempts (to seize control over Maemo), but that was fixed already. I would say that Maemo leadership is *much* more stable than Neo900's leadership... YMMV.
A much better constructed post this time . It's a shame you had to spoil it at the end with another unnecessary dig at Jörg.

I agree that the Neo900 needs to have Fremantle. I'm still using Fremantle on my N900 for a reason (although I don't think it's a great long term solution). I've nothing against good cooperation between Maemo officials and the Fremantle Porting Task Force however I just don't see what it is that they can offer each other at this moment in time. Should the moment arise, I guess they will cross that bridge when they come to it. In the meantime freemangordon, jonwil, et al. are plugging away at the job.

No FUD intended by my comment about Maemo's leadership. I think they do a great job considering all that's been going on, it's a voluntary position after all! I personally believe that in recent discussions (or should I say flame wars), everyone that has spoken out has done so with the best intentions towards the community. When I say it's "in a bit of a mess" (and I think I was being kind by saying "a bit") it's because there are real problems such as stubbornness, lack of tolerance of others, hatred and insults, all of which are hindering progress. It's not just one or two but about half a dozen people have contributed to this situation. Difference of opinions is healthy but until all of this sh¡t around it stops, the leadership will continue to be a mess.
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DebiaN900 - Native Debian on the N900. Deprecated in favour of Maemo Leste.

Maemo Leste for N950 and N9 (currently broken).
Devuan for N950 and N9.

Mobile devices with mainline Linux support - Help needed with documentation.

"Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly." - Henry Spencer

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