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[RFC] On the roles of Maemo Council and Maemo e.V.
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joerg_rw
2014-10-03 , 21:54
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For the reasons why you're not in council, I think they are pretty sound, but don't you think they also would forbid you doing a (decent) job as VP or treasurer? And what do you think how many members you'll find who don't have similarly sound arguments why they love to discuss a lot in GA but can't do the
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No, this is a community, and all your VPs and Presidents and treasurers and tech soldiers and whatnot already exist, they just got other names. Council is the orga part, the office. You suggest to restructure everything, just because... I think it's better to cling to working structures instead of nuking them to reinvent them poorly. The idea that there's no need for council anymore since Nokia is gone is about as reasonable as the idea to fire the secretary because the design department doesn't use pencils anymore, so no secretary needed to sharpen them. I explained in one of my last 3 posts that council has a lot of duties that pass almost unnoticed and get silently done in background. Council also discussed e.g. speedpatch stuff with community and finally decided what to do with it. This went less unnoticed but again seems nobody even remembers it. I for one don't want to be member in a community err club that has a dedicated officer (appointed for at least one year, or probably lifetime, by a "GA" of 20) for that who thinks he can decide on own discretion and wisdom what to do in such a case.
Re your "single-tier", maemo basically is a zero-tier structure, since there's no government at all. And we are all happy with that. And that didn't change since Nokia, we had same organization before Nokia vanished. The only difference: sysops been Eero, Niels, and Ferenc, and they did more stuff like repo management, ML mainentance etc since they knew their stuff and got paid (fulltime?) and council wasn't needed to tell them what to do, though it could have done so (and occasionally did). And they knew what's legal and what's not and nobody could force them to do something illegal, anybody caliming "I been forced to do that " is... xxx. When Nokia passed over (or did they already? I don't think so) the whole maemo.org, the legal responsibility got transferred from Nokia to BoD, while the technical maintenance got assigned from BoD to council who appointed me (with consent of BoD) to coordinate (= execute) that stuff, and I delegated it to our sysops and maintainers. Eero transferred the root passwords to Falk and me, with consent from BoD, council, Nokia. That's where we are today. Eventually chemist came up with the idea that coordination of techstaff was no longer needed and tried to dismiss me. Well, think about it what you like. The rootpasswords are not written down on any paper here so I cannot hand them out, I'm not taking care about the whole infra anymore, and Falk got my appologies that now he's the one to deal with that mess ("upward", not among techstaff peers, a fine bunch!). Good luck when those who think "have the power" pester him same way they did (and do) with me. Then it's a question of months until the servers really are going down from bitrotting in maintenance mode. meanwhile council handles a dozen package-maintainer requests and 4 or 5 upload-permission-requests every month. I guess you know what I'm talking about and how you take over that task. And it's only one of several.
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