Thread: Jolla arrives to India
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juiceme is offline juiceme
2014-10-06 , 20:32
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Originally Posted by bluefoot View Post
You take most of what I say out of context; replies to someone else's previous post - which I quoted. Therefore some of what you say is not really worth responding to. The rest seems to be the usual mix of outrage, denial and ad hominem which corresponds with any criticism of the Jolla or Sailfish.
If that is so, then I apologise. I responded to this one post of yours as I thought it was all written by you. It is difficult to know sometimes if you are quoting somebody else's posts if you do not explicitely mark it so.

I do not think the abovementioned qualities can be applied to me. I myself have found that the Jolla device and SailfishOS fit my needs perfectly, and just am curious on how apparentlly different the needs of people can be...
Of course there can be criticism where it is due, for example the camera HW of the Jolla device is really poor quality.


Originally Posted by bluefoot View Post
But, yes, fortunately or unfortunately I do own a Jolla device. I consider it to be of a fairly poor quality, and people's reaction to it, whether iphone fanboy or Linux beardie has generally been that it looks and feels bad and seems old fashioned. I can't say that I disagree with these sentiments.
Okay, You do have experience on it then, your describing the properties of it just did sound like secondhand opinions since they are so far from my own experience
And as for people's reaction to that, also I do find it fairly odd as I have had exactly the opposite response; there has been just one friend who has thought of the device as not being attractive (an Android user with HTC device, non-IT-geek-type guy)


Originally Posted by bluefoot View Post
I'd be shocked if battery fit issues were quite as bad with the Lumias, especially since most of them have non-removable batteries, but as I have no experience with them I'll bow to your greater knowledge.
You bet! I guess you do not have so many WP devices in India as they mainly have any notable market share in Finland, but the HW is remarkably flaky in those devices.
Some models do have removable batteries, BTW, you are now probably thinking of the older WP7 models which were all with non-removable batteries.
Both battery problems and "sudden death" syndrome is fairly common with Lumias. Fortunately so common, that when something like that happens you just return the device to the seller and are usually given a replacement on-site.
The only thing where those devices shine is the camera. If only that HW was abailable in the Jolla device... Otherwice they are fairly unusable, you just cannot do anything intresting with them.


Originally Posted by bluefoot View Post
IAll but one of the Linux enthusiasts / coders / app-writers I know are getting a Samsung Galaxy Note 4 when it's released. Why? It offers a large, high resolution screen that's far easier to work on when away from the desk, and an all day battery. This despite some of them despising Google or not liking Android. The lone exception is retaining an iphone because the company they work for does most of their business through iOS apps and it's not convenient for them to use anything else as their primary device. Even the guy who primarily uses obscure command-line only (no GUI) Linux distros for his work and hobby projects is getting one. At first I was amazed that they were all stampeding towards such a large, unwieldy and very expensive device (some of them are very tight with money) ... but it makes perfect sense from a usability and productivity standpoint. The current Jolla phone is anything but a coder's friend in the current marketplace.
That's a tablet really. Not a phone.
I have Nexus7 for that use.


Originally Posted by bluefoot View Post
IIf so many of the people who've bought Jollas are so satisfied, how do you explain the minimal numbers of app downloads? If we are to assume that there have definitely been 10k sales, there is no other way to explain it but an extremely high rate of attrition or abandonment, or non-primary / occasional device use. Many of the voices that were active pre-launch or post launch here (or on together.jolla) have completely disappeared or have moved on. If everyone's a happy customer, surely there'd be way more downloads and way more activity? There simply isn't, however.
What is minimal? I have not really looked at the stats for downloading but just now as I checked, the most downloaded application is the android compability layer.
That has been downloaded over 25k times. I'd call the quite a lot of downloads, hmm? And "file browser", over 10k downloads?
( I have neither of those, BTW, but instead I have installed lots of other SW to my device, most of what's not in any "app store" but available as source packages.... that I compile on my device. )
 

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