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Originally Posted by ZogG View Post
Really? So "learning on mistakes" or "without knowing your past you have no future" are no logical at all here?
Depends if we are going to concentrate on problems, or if we are going to concentrate on solutions. I fully agree on Gebrick's take that this community has become very toxic towards Jolla (IMO it was more or less toxic from the very beginning before we knew next to nothing about the device), almost to extent that it has become more like problem itself. There are things that could have been executed better and I'm positive that Jolla will make an effort to address at least some concerns. However, I do recognize that there is limit on how much toxic human beings can take before cooperation begins to deteriorate. This, in my experience, is pretty much dependent on attitudes in community - are we concentrating on problems, or are we looking for solutions even if not all our demands can be met in reasonable way. The question is, would you want to have contact with someone who turns hostile on instant if he doesn't get what he wants in a way he wants immediately, simply ignoring reasons and explanations why some things are like they are? Or would you ask help from such person? I really doubt it.

Its pity to say, but I have started to question the whole community thing because of all toxicity in both relations with Jolla and inside the community overall. After Nokia's abandonment this seems to have turned to playground of it's own internal agendas and instead of idea of cooperation/coexistence, it primary concentrates on how much it can get out of small company like Jolla. So yes, there is logic from learning from past mistakes - but the lesson learned may also be that it's better limit contact with toxic community to get things done instead of wasting that energy in constant battles in war that cannot be won. That's my subjective take on this, Jolla likely doesn't see it the same way I do, they still want to embrace a community and cooperation (though they are unable to support it sufficiently at the moment, some things have to be built first and those can be done only by Jolla and nobody else).

Last edited by JulmaHerra; 2014-10-27 at 20:35.
 

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