Agree and likewise there's no hope for a company where only those employee's are left that don't dare to move their PC from the left to the right side of the desk and back as they please. Kinda explains how Elop could get an audience that would not scold him gathered for his "leaked to blogosphere" internal Lumia video the days after N9 came out. Hopefully the smart frogs have jumped the kooking pot in time and or now brooding eggs at Jolla!