Thread: Pyra - 2nd generation OpenPandora
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2014-12-06 , 00:18
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Originally Posted by Estel View Post
Of course, everyone's expectation differ - but when discussing device's feasibility, we can skip that, or any point would be moot one (after all, everything may be suitable for someone). When I wrote "more important", I thought about it as "more important for device's success", thats why no "for me bit".
Alright, I understand where you're coming from much better now. However, you're conflating the two devices with this "battle for pocket-PC superiority." Only one of these devices is explicitly and unashamedly just that- the Pyra. As such, it's aiming for a very specific audience.

Meanwhile, the Neo900's still a phone for a specific audience. Its feasibility as a pocket-PC henceforth wouldn't translate directly to its success. Both devices have their niche.

Why? Because phone functionality can be found on gazillion of devices, while (real) desktop-PC-in-pocket is close to non-existent category.
I understand that, but the latter's not the Neo900's first call of duty. It's not a pocket-PC; it's a smartphone. Smartphones aren't meant to be stand-ins for a netbook. Rather, their primary purposes are use for connectivity with peers+business and as a daily helper on-the-move. There's certainly infinite ways to fulfill those purposes, which are definitely not limited to phones.

However, if the smartphone market has proven one thing, it's that people find smartphones to be the most widely-accepted way of fulfilling those purposes. Not true for everyone, but the overwhelming supermajority, without question.

Here is a niche for Pyra. IMO - even outside of my personal sentiments - in direct comparison with Pyra, device like Neo900 (if lacking major parts of "desktop pc in pocket") may, at the end of a day, interest people fanatically attached to Hildon-like experience for mobile computing (aka small percent of Maemo users), and thats about it.
That underlined bit. You can't have an opinion that's outside of your personal sentiments. Your opinion is a reflection of your personal sentiments, as indicated by, quite literally, everything else following that statement.

Pyra gets everything else, which is, like, 99,99% of "geeky" audience?
That's a VERY bold claim. Even with the loose context attached to the "'geeky' audience" you're alluding to, that's still a broad audience.

...but the more I learn about customizing window managers and lightweight desktop environments (like LXDE) to my liking/special needs, the less and less need for Hildon I see.
It seems like anytime I'm in a discussion about tech, the monster of "personal integration" keeps rearing its head. Let's address this.

What you just said is also true for..well...literally every other product with preconfigured defaults. People love the ol' GNOME2 interface to pieces. People also love Unity. There's Windows 7 die-hards, as well as Windows 8 fanatics.

Hell, there's people that hate systemd so much, they're willing to fork+fragment Debian to avoid having it as a default. The biggest OSS project in the planet, and people are willing to fragment it just to suit their needs (or wants, in this case).

Hildon's fallen from grace for your needs? Cool. On the same token, there's someone for whom Hildon strikes every single right chord.

Even I can relate to this. I used to really like Ubuntu. A couple months of distro-hopping later, I wrote my ticket to Arch-land.

Certainly, not enough to justify hooping through so many fire loops, like porting Fremantle to anything non-Nokia require, objectively.
Ouch. Do you eat ketchup with your salt?

I'm aware that all possible the N900-like hardware projects should also allow other OS'es than Fremantle, but I can't imagine anyone buying it over Pyra for running something OTHER than FreEmantle on it. Unless one is buying both devices "for the love of projects", but it hardly counts as sustainable customers base, IMO.
All up to whoever's interested. I can't imagine anyone using Linux to stick with Ubuntu at this point, yet it's still at least in the Top 3 of most popular distributions. So much for imagination.
 

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