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Originally Posted by wicket View Post
An interesting proposal to establish a volunteers' working group but the problem I see with it is finding volunteers who would be willing to do the "mundane tasks" as you put it.
IDK, I would be first to volunteer for doing "mundane" housekeeping tasks in Maemo, as long as it doesn't involve Council, elections, and all that fss-fuss

Originally Posted by wicket View Post
I don't really understand the cleaner analogy. Cleaners don't have the responsibility of keeping an organisation running.
Neither Council have - keeping the organisation running is job of Board (BTW, this common misconception reinforces my theory about eternal power conflict if we keep Council).

Originally Posted by wicket View Post
A more appropriate analogy might be one of councillors on a city/town council.
Nah, housekeeping tasks of Council IS being the cleaners (mostly). Councilors on city/town (as we have ONE city here) is the General Assembly, with Board being the major

BTW, cleaning the "house" IS part of keeping organization running - try to work in town hall that wasn't cleaned for 2 year or live in a city where trash isn't disposed of (even for few weeks), and you will notice that in short term, cleaners are much more vital for organization survival than town council/major Italians would have some experiences with it...

Current Maemo Council IS for cleaning - including cleaning the toilets, if you pardon the comparison. Important task (no irony), but nevertheless miles away from city/town Council. When one toilet cleaner think he is head of city Council/major, we get what we had in past few months, and we *must* not allow it happen, again, ever. Ditching election campaign of room/toilet cleaners is a good step toward it.

Originally Posted by wicket View Post
As I understand it, there is currently no rule in place would prevent volunteers from coming forward to help out the council but we don't seem see many volunteers outside of the council as it stands.
Because if they're already elected, why you would need to? We have, like, 11 candidates. Last time it was 10. Still, the unelected ones were NOT volunteering doing mundane tasks after election, even if they were willing to volunteer BEFORE election (thus candidated) - which is another proof that the election circus around Council discourage people from doing real work.

Even though current time's Council is unpaid and meant to be house cleaning, there is too much involved with election in our "bigger" society, that (conscious or not) catalyst thinking like "they got elected, so it's their responsibility, why should I do this task if they got elected to do so?".

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