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Originally Posted by Estel View Post
IDK, I would be first to volunteer for doing "mundane" housekeeping tasks in Maemo, as long as it doesn't involve Council, elections, and all that fss-fuss



Neither Council have - keeping the organisation running is job of Board (BTW, this common misconception reinforces my theory about eternal power conflict if we keep Council).



Nah, housekeeping tasks of Council IS being the cleaners (mostly). Councilors on city/town (as we have ONE city here) is the General Assembly, with Board being the major

BTW, cleaning the "house" IS part of keeping organization running - try to work in town hall that wasn't cleaned for 2 year or live in a city where trash isn't disposed of (even for few weeks), and you will notice that in short term, cleaners are much more vital for organization survival than town council/major Italians would have some experiences with it...

Current Maemo Council IS for cleaning - including cleaning the toilets, if you pardon the comparison. Important task (no irony), but nevertheless miles away from city/town Council. When one toilet cleaner think he is head of city Council/major, we get what we had in past few months, and we *must* not allow it happen, again, ever. Ditching election campaign of room/toilet cleaners is a good step toward it.



Because if they're already elected, why you would need to? We have, like, 11 candidates. Last time it was 10. Still, the unelected ones were NOT volunteering doing mundane tasks after election, even if they were willing to volunteer BEFORE election (thus candidated) - which is another proof that the election circus around Council discourage people from doing real work.

Even though current time's Council is unpaid and meant to be house cleaning, there is too much involved with election in our "bigger" society, that (conscious or not) catalyst thinking like "they got elected, so it's their responsibility, why should I do this task if they got elected to do so?".

/Estel
I just don't see how it will be possible for the Board to represent the entire community. I've already expressed my concerns in the other thread regarding voting differences and personal data storage so the fact remains that not everyone in the community will want to become a member of the GA. This means that the Council (or a similar entity) is needed if you don't want to alienate anybody. For better or for worse, the MC e.V. is here to stay. The Board considered it to be the best way forward at the time and by all means it does have its advantages over its previous incarnation. I'd like to have faith (it may be blind faith) in the good will nature of the both the Board and Council that they can both settle their differences and avoid any future "power struggle".
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