Thread: [RFC] On the roles of Maemo Council and Maemo e.V.
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2015-01-09 , 00:31
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With all this debate over decisions-vs-liability, it sounds like Council should be equal to Board. However: Board cannot be changed that frequently (every 6 months) for bank-access-and-such reasons (right?), and Board has to be elected by GA (which is not ever going to be equal to Community, because of all these application-form-name-age-and-such limitations). So, not going to merge Board with Council. And not going to remove Council, either: having just one ruling body is... frightening. Disconcerting.

So instead, red-button control (if one of Board-Council has to be re-elected, then the other has to be re-elected at the same time, too) and other changes mentioned by Win7Mac plus good communication (what exactly is the legal-liability concern of Board with whatever Council would like to do? where is the free-of-charge lawyer-team when you need some advice?) would be key. I hope...

Originally Posted by chemist View Post
In short:

GA is the ultimate power, as long as it is legal, following the bylaws and has funding (for cases needed).
Board can throw over or return to discussion with GA when things seem off, legally or missing funding or not in line with the bylaws.
Board can act on their own and as long as GA agrees proceed, GA can block board decisions and revert them.
Council has no powers but those explicitly handed to it (that is more responsibilities than real power) and a voice in discussions.

Maemo Community is all of us - in general referred to as garage accounts - they vote for Council

GA is the (in our case) annual meeting of all members of the MCeV

MCeV is a registered at court entity representing Maemo and its community (when HiFo finally disappears). It consists of a Board voted by the GA and a Council voted by the maemo community (garage.mo) and of course of the members and founders of the MCeV itself.

So separation is [MCeV(Board,Council,GA,Members)] != [Maemo Community(garage,Council)] while they share the same council. Garage accounts are mentioned in the bylaws as party to elect the council.
About Board having not much say: it still managed to move from HiFo to eV, and I do not recall a referendum about it. But that's past... Too late to discuss that. I'm not sure why, but Board decided to sneak in one more decision-making body (besides Board, Community, and Council): GA. Board cannot be equal to Council-or-Community, Community cannot be equal to Council-or-GA, Council could have been equal to GA but it would give too much power to the Council over the Board when Board and Council have to be equal. What about Board-equal-to-GA? Aka Community elects GA of whatever-fixed-size, and GA elects Board (three members, or something?). It would have been tricky to write down in Bylaws, maybe...

And, if you want to be sure that GA & Board move in the same direction as Members=garage=Community & Council, it's recommended to join the GA. You will also have access to annual accounts, to formally approve the actions of the Board...

So far, I still do not know what happens if Council's rulings and GA's rulings contradict each other: what will Board do?

Random details:

Council meetings are accepted as able to make decisions if at least two thirds (2/3) of councilors are present or represented.

General Assembly is accepted as able to make decisions if at least one third of the active members are present.

I would say that it sounds better to have:

General Assembly is accepted as able to make decisions if at least two thirds (2/3) of the active members are present or represented.

Best wishes. Thank you.
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