Thread: Should I buy a tablet?
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2015-04-10 , 08:02
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Originally Posted by kureyon View Post
But the courts have already seen through this kind of shenanigans when Microsoft claimed that IE was an integral part of Windows and cannot be removed without crippling Windows. Claiming that the laptop and the OS are an integrated product is even more feeble, and even easier to disprove.
Apples and oranges?
I like fruit salads but I don't think MS does. So unless someone (you? me?) brings that to a court I don't think that policy will change.

Originally Posted by kureyon View Post
As long as the manufacturer or the reseller pays the postage then it would be good fun to keep buying and returning those machines until the manufacturer stop being such d*cks.
Maybe that works in LEO, but in Germany every seller is free to decide whether to make a contract with you or not. And I guess after you've returned the 2nd device because you don't want the Windows he'll probably just ignore you.


Originally Posted by wicket View Post
You're right, it's not ideal but the components tend to be relatively common compared with smartphone hardware so there's a reasonably chance of drivers being upstreamed.
I'm not worried so much about hardware, but about software.
For Easy Debian Jessie I have to patch glibc because the standard Debian packages don't like Kernel 2.6.28.
And I've heard rumors that Systemd is or will be very specific about which kernel versions it accepts. Now, I don't like Systemd anymore than you do, but the reality right now is that it's kind of hard to get around it.

Originally Posted by kureyon View Post
It's still a much better situation than buying a laptop where Linux isn't officially supported and you may be missing some Linux drivers altogether, thus you're unable to use some of the hardware.
Not sure if you're right. At least you're not wrong.
Be wary of any Dell laptops that officially come with Ubuntu! There have been reports of acpi tweaks that initially only worked with the Dell-Ubuntu images because of non-free kernel modules.
Afaik it's fixed now because these tweaks have been mainlined, but it took longer than Canonical's support of the respective Ubuntu version lasted. So Users of these Dell-Ubuntus were without any security fixes for quite some time.

Originally Posted by wicket View Post
The CB30 is an older model. The Toshiba Chromebook 2 (CB35-B3340) supports up to 9 hours.
The sites I checked [1][2] indicate, that the CB30 is the Chromebook 2.

Originally Posted by wicket View Post
Really? I got that figure straight from Lenovo's website.
Prices on manufacturers websites tend to be higher than in regular shops.
At least with Dell it usually helps to phone them to get a more "reasonable" price. It's like on a bazar. I wouldn't be surprised if it's similar with Lenovo.


[1] http://www.toshiba.de/laptops/Chrome.../chromebook-2/
[2] http://www.heise.de/preisvergleich/t...loc=at&hloc=de
 

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