maemo.org - Talk - View Single Post - [RFC] On the roles of Maemo Council and Maemo e.V.

	joerg_rw	2015-04-30 , 09:52
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Originally Posted by chemist

So we are at it again. Bylaws have been made up without you being able to read them - in the shadows. As you are able to write I guess you are able to read too. It really breaks down to an actual minor detail, minor as at some point MCeV might even be bigger as the usual amount of votes as it is 1/4 already. If anybody wanted to overpower or exclude council somebody could have moved fwd in that direction at some point but didn't. So if this is really just about you being lied to. Move on already, you are not the only one being lied to! Words have been said, trust has been destroyed... Have fun, I'm out.

thanks for this, it shows exactly the whole mess in all this. I have read the bylaws, that's why I didn't believe that the MCeV bylaws were compatible with council's, and I clearly stated that - nevertheless I have been belied at that they WERE COMPATIBLE and any possible problems COULD GET FIXED BY ADJUSTING MCeV BYLAWS LATER ON. I didn't contribute to the bylaws since I'm not obliged to and had no spare time to do so, and I clearly stated that but nevertheless always pointed at this problem.
Now you lie to me and others again, stating that council had already accepted the MCeV bylaws and thus change in own voting or whatever, everybody who wants to know the truth is welcome to e.g. read the protocol of that inaugural meeting of MCeV.

Foundation of a german e.V. been originally my suggestion since I was (and still am) convinced that german laws allow more liberties in formulating statutes that american laws did for the HiFo. Nevertheless I always pointed at the importance to take special care to incorporate the Maemo Council same way it actually was possible to integrate it into HiFo bylaws and proceedings.
Now the story you tell is we need that german e.V. since the HiFo can't accomplish what's needed, and yet obviously the way you set up the e.V is resulting in an inferior entity than HiFo regarding compatibility with maemo community. And when you're getting called out on it, you resort to ad hominem and bitching and lies.

I'm done with this, do whatever you want. Just stop spreading lies about my behavior and/or my statements and votes!

BR
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