Thread: [RFC] On the roles of Maemo Council and Maemo e.V.
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2015-05-01 , 15:33
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Originally Posted by gryllida View Post
1) proposed change to § 4.1 Council Elections Subsection 6 : when nominating self for council must declare interest ...
- such as working for Nokia
+ such as working for a company involved in Maemo-related software development (option 1, your)
+ such as working for a company involved in Maemo-related software or hardware development (option 2, mine)
how about: such as working for a company commercially interested in Maemo

Originally Posted by gryllida View Post
no problem with this change, i don't see why it needs a referendum, most people would simply agree
Because it is written rule (Council Election Rules) to have a referendum (I do not like that word) to change said rules.

Originally Posted by gryllida View Post
2) proposed change to § 4.1 Council Elections Subsection 12 : Changes to any of the above rules must be approved by...
- a referendum by everyone registered on garage (= all passive members)
+ general assembly meeting or passive members meeting (your option)
Everyone registered on garage (= all passive members) equals (as in is the very same as) Passive Members' Meeting (legal term)

Originally Posted by gryllida View Post
3) the rest of this discussion is odd, as mentioned before i wouldn't require all council members to join mcev while leaving its roles as is (including being elected by all registered eligible garage users) as if what it asks is illegal then the board can refuse to fullfill its requests anyway
That was discussed and not desired as no-one should be forced to join the MCeV to become council.

I have no objections to this, the only thing is, this can't be subject to a referendum, it requires a descission by GA, so persuade them and this may be resolved too. Why shouldn't community determine it's election procedure for its' representavive on it's own? You have my voice for that.
That does not change that GA can alter any of the regulations, be it Association Rules be it Board Regulations be it that we have to wear bow-ties for meetings.

I honestly do not get where the deal is with people "demanding" council be the very same as with Nokia and be THE untouchable whatever they think it is. Truth is, the community, us, we, been represented by this council but now the community, we, us, owns Maemo - so the reason to have a council is to leave the option to participate by representation instead of joining the association directly, so people can stay anonymous, trigger discussion with council which draws attention to their needs. Future talk: Council would then pick the right people from MCeV to move on the issue. As far as I am concerned anonymous should not be able to alter any rules not even council election rules, if they want them changed they can ask council about it and move up the ladder...

I'd maybe just give up on getting this sorted any time soon...
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