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JulmaHerra	2015-07-01 , 09:34
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Originally Posted by ZogG

This exactly prooves the point that lack of information is not good.
As there was no information if they actually resolved the problems with display (even HW problem as finding proper replacement). And no one said that they just need some time to finish software, as there is possibility as they hit a brick.

There has.

https://blog.jolla.com/jolla-iteration-4/

Some parts, for instance the Android app support and the support for multiple devices (tablet & phone) in the Jolla store backend and client need a lot of work still. Just to mention a few items. All in all, the Sailfish OS 2.0 software development is progressing steadily, but it still requires a lot of effort in many areas.

Last comment from them was from June 26th that there are still some problems to be resolved with ODM regarding the new display. However, until that is resoled, there is no relevant news to publish if there are no further delays.

The whole problem is that with no information all we talk here are speculations. And it can take you any direction.
You see it black and white, but no we do not need "yellow press" info from inside Jolla, all we need is brief update which is common thing in any crowedfunded project — ANY...

I have started to see it more black and white after seeing how every new piece of information spawns more speculation and much of that speculation is deliberately poisonous and negative. Only relevant update at this moment would be the binding delivery schedule or that there is further delay. Announcing the same situation (basically "we are working on it but have no dates etc. to announce yet") doesn't do any good. No "brief updates" will ever suffice, they will only spawn requests for more and we would be back in this very discussion again, dancing around funny definiton of term "silence".

It's not even about good or bad PR, it's about common sense when people funded the product and have no idea of it's status and future after 2 months delay.

Status is that there are problems with ODM and most likely something needs to be done on software side also, as it has been mentioned some time ago. Everything else beyond that is only speculation. We are within one month of target delivery date, so as I said before, only relevant information at this time is to announce that problems have been solved and deliveries will start in certain date, or that solving problems will need more time so there is further delay. However, it's likely that it's not yet possible to determine if further delay is needed and for how long, so it makes perfect sense not to announce something just for the sake of announcing something.

Though that's is more of yellow press, but you need to understand that some people not simply leave project with no reason, especially if they FOSS supporters and Jolla is so good....

I rather not speculate on reasons why people decide to change their job. People leave companies for numerous reasons, which doesn't really need to be anything more than someone annoying in the working place or methods, work burden, stress etc. Even inside FOSS-communities people change projects, do forks and go separate ways for various reasons. I can say that I wouldn't been able to go through launching of Jolla phone and long days just because I have family to raise, no matter how I felt towards company, the product or anything else.

just food for thought, that you are wearing pink glasses. And that they actually have great PR team if you still think all is that good and they are perfect, as their campains before they ask for money are always great and silence just after money is gathered is common pattern

Usually I don't wear pink glasses, not towards companies and especially not towards people, communities etc. I think you are exaggerating quite a bit on that part, if your definition of silence is what Jolla has done during Indiegogo-campaign, I'm not sure if I wanted to be in silent place like in your definition to get some rest.