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Originally Posted by JulmaHerra View Post
Perhaps. However, community doesn't own or run Jolla, so community will never be the one calling the shots in company. The ones who invested their money in it do and have the last word on what is implemented and when. In that regard the way of simply bash until you get what you want the way you want only to continue bashing on some other thing and of course reminding how long it took to implement feature X you wanted to be there when the world was created doesn't look like good alternative to me. But of course if you really believe that it advances some purpose, by all means continue to do it (I'm sure you will). Personally I think this will be my last contribution here, as it's clearly evident that only negative remarks are welcome here and others are regarded as *** licking *****s. So enjoy the ride.
Not sure if you would see it, but whole point of TMO and Maemo community was about community, as Jolla not directly but somehow got from here (mer was developed here btw) and as the first users they targeted were from here. The phones preorders and tablet preorders were made by community, so community actually invested. in addition the unlikeliness of Jolla was about openness(this word is used a lot by their PR with opensource btw, which is not 100% true) and about community, that's how they got a lot of people involved, including me ordering from first wave of phones.
And as of features and exact UI parts, I said my opinions, but I never talked too much about them, except few parts(like themes and other halfs that were main features and now gone and that it's now more and more looks like android). What I'm talking is about the politics, communication, promisses they give and not keep. The general and important things in their "growing" which I think as community — now is main source of applications and most money(preorders) — should be heard and opinion should be considered.
Simple example is that they want developers to develop and there was a lot of noise around it, but no paid apps, not all APIs, not much effort is there.
If you look in general, where is main effort of Jolla? Software would you say? OS? But they did not publish a lot of apps. They do have updates (btw once they said it would be monthly, than 3 months and now how many updates we have?), but they are slow and some of them still have really annoying bugs that are not fixed release after release. After few years we have 2.0 and how many things where changed, few UI changes and few features in how many years? If you take Nokia N9 that had only 3 updates the difference between each one had longer changelog(all libs updates and stuff that Jolla includes even was not included in those changelogs).
So where exactly they put their effort? Pasted a long time and we do not see any real progress.
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Btw just coz of this mist and silence most people do not pay attention, but a lot of top people from Jolla left and few great devs, which should already be an alarming, but you will never know as Jolla keeps everything under the shadows
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