Thread: Alternative history: What if Jolla never existed?
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2015-11-20 , 22:00
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Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
What does this even mean? Even Apple has faltered in recent (enough) history. This is perhaps as inflammatory of a response as I'd ever expect from a scorned lover. Simply stated, it could have gone unsaid because it matters none.
No sense in commenting above.

Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
Too bad Tizen has seen a limited release (India, China and Russia so far)
What you are writing is not true - you can buy Tizen smartwatches in USA and Europe. Regarding the smartphones (probably that's what you had on mind) - Samsung Z3 will be launched in 11 European countries (btw. Russia is also in Europe if you haven't noticed yet).

Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
and Ubuntu Touch is seen as a hard failure not even delivering an user experience that's consistent with the prior PR and whatever else Shuttleworth has stated.
Ubuntu Touch is not a failure, it steadily develops, step by step and devices in 2016 will have the long awaited convergence. They don't have financial troubles or employeers leaving en masse.

Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
And Tizen would be a failure even if compared to just one of the more recent Samsung Galaxy devices.
When it comes to smartphones, first Tizen product - Samsung Z1 was targeted at low-end, it was not meant to compete with top Galaxy models.

Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
So give me an example of a "rockstar" set of 120 or less engineers that's: 1) launched a phone, 2) created a SDK, 3) produced an OS, 4) updated their OS, 5) produced libhybris (used by: Ubuntu Touch, WebOS and others) and 6) got tablets out in the hands of core developers.

Be very specific. I'll wait.
I'll give you an example of a much smaller team, consisting of 39 people that weren't the "best & brightest former Nokia/Meego employees" and achieved a lot.

Meet Fairphone:
https://www.fairphone.com/about/

Clear goal, good communications with community, real transparency, humble approach and not having so much funding as Jolla had (read the figures in the Fairphone factsheet PDF).

Result:
60,000 phones sold

How many phones Jolla sold? 25,000-30,000? We don't know because of the so called Jolla "transparency" and "openness".
 

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