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Originally Posted by salyavin View Post
Well I know there are people who do not like libhybris as the manufactures then feel they have no reason to write drivers for glibc and they are closed and we cannot modify or update them.
Well note I what I was replying to. What I said is that as long as you keep doing this then _anyone_ will be able to just put regular Android on it and do the same for a fraction of the price or even for free.

So yes, Android, AOSP and Hybris are hammers. I'm thinking there's a huge world out there of hardware where running Android would make no sense, but this Android-as-hammer requirement means people just don't see it.


That said, I obviously also have a huge anti-Android agenda. So here comes the off-topic part...

Originally Posted by salyavin View Post
However what could we realistically do without it? Can the community reverse engineer drivers and write them?
It's a bit ironical that the quote you mention comes from a person who has succeeded at exactly that.

Originally Posted by salyavin View Post
I want open drivers but I am very thankful for Stskeep's work that allows us to have a chance at alternative systems on more hardware, I don't see another way.
"Ruinous compromises" for me.

Last time I was actively trying to port the Linux kernel to anything, it was the day I fried my Palm T|X*.

Well, that was in 2009 more or less, so I can tell you something: things have not improved. Running the software you want on the devices you own is _at least_ as hard today as it was 6 years ago, probably harder since nowadays the minimum amount of supported hardware for a device to be considered "usable" has increased dramatically.

Android has done _absolutely nothing_ regarding hardware freedom.

It just happens that it is a POSIX-like operating system and thus running most programs is much easier... but so is iOS. But from a hardware point of view? No improvement at all. Same as Windows CE days. Even words from WinCE I believe should be considered _blasphemy_ are still in use today (e.g. BSP, ROM), thanks to Android.

* When I fried my Palm T|X, I suddenly found myself without a working PDA and without money. Alongside many Palm PDAs, I found a cheap used N810 on eBay, so after a bit of thought I decided to take a risk and try it, instead of getting another Palm. That was 2009. The rest is history
 

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