So you're saying this situation is all the fault of the investor? Would you not consider the investor's perspective in all this? i.e. the guts of $50M has went into Jolla since 2012 - going into 2016 the Sailfish user base is still tiny, there are no products in the pipeline, there is no plan as to how Sailfish can be commercially viable. Clearly Jolla have worked hard, but Jolla as a commercial business entity has failed and failed pretty badly. Jolla don't have customers to lose, and this debacle will have lost them the few they had. With piles of legacy debts and obligations built up, it's hard to see an investor wanting to take that over while also sinking more money in to fund future development. No one is killing hope. The whole point of this thread was tl talk about the possibilities of keeping Sailfish going. Personally, I think the money just does not exist to keep Jolla the company going, but the community and less money does exist to keep Sailfish going on a smaller, cheaper basis. This is in no way a pop at Jolla or any staff. They have clearly worked hard, they have developed a great OS - unfortunately, it has been a commercial flop. The question we ask from here is can Sailfish be kept going in a smaller, tighter ship? Personally, I think so.