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Originally Posted by bluefoot View Post
You (and others) should really try using some different products. You have absolutely no idea just how far behind in features, functionality and performance Sailfish is, and the gap grows ever wider.

The reason Jolla have not succeeded is due to; calamitously bad judgement and management at every turn; a product that despite 4 years of development and a very solid base to work from is miles behind the competition and arguably inferior to both of its immediate forebears even 2 years after release; total lack of engagement with developers or any effort to provide them with a desirable or revenue generating platform and alienating almost the entire Maemo / Meego userbase & community with breathtaking speed; appalling communication and PR; a ridiculously flawed development process; a combination of arrogance and self pity.

They could have succeeded on their own merits, but they didn't. They absolutely did not fail because they were too small. They failed because they failed. That they failed so utterly - despite initially a great deal of interest and good will in the industry - is perhaps their greatest achievement.

If they were as good as you and other seem to think and it was just a question of resources, you'd have seen them taken over or fully funded long ago, with more than 1 partner (now likely gone) in 4 years. That none of that happened is testament to what I just stated.
Well I use an Android phone on job. A Galaxy S4 mini. And I can tell you there is indeed a huge performance gap between my two phones. But it isn't the way you told me. My Jolla is by far less laggy than my business phone. And by the way I have to reboot the S4 mini every two days, just to be on the safe side for getting my mails.

And features? Well we use egroupware here and let me tell you, You can't imagine but we need a third party app to sync our phones with caldav. And no, we have some guys which got better phones than me, with an actual OS. Still we need a third party app.

Apps? Yes you are completely right. There are millions for Android and just a few for Sailfish. But isn't that our job? And to be honest if you break down all the apps to really useful apps and don't count all the apps which are doubled. The gap is a little bit smaller than it seemed on the first view.

And than there is Tizen. Which some of you guys are always referring to. Hmm just have a look:
Tizen started on April 2012 - first public Version - development started obviously before.
For the third quarter of 2014 there was a first phone (Z SM-Z910F) announced and it was surprise surprise CANCELLED.
They also announced another Tizen Phone the Z1 for 10.12.2014 well funny enough it was postponed. ...And hit the market 2 month later than announced. And we don't speak here from a MULTI MILLION MEGA PLAYER - of course not. Samsung is a very small and limited Company.

Ahhh and how many apps are there for Tizen?

So where are all the Alternatives which are light years far away???
  • Apple? - Yes if you like a walled garden.
  • Windows mobile? Well a really good OS in aspects of performance...but well it's somehow limited.
  • Ubuntu phone? Maybe in the future.
  • plasma mobile? Yes, this one is a really big hope for me, if Sailfish fails. But at the moment far away to be ready.

Last edited by Fellfrosch; 2015-12-01 at 10:04.