And than there is Tizen. Which some of you guys are always referring to. Hmm just have a look: Tizen started on April 2012 - first public Version - development started obviously before. For the third quarter of 2014 there was a first phone (Z SM-Z910F) announced and it was surprise surprise CANCELLED. They also announced another Tizen Phone the Z1 for 10.12.2014 well funny enough it was postponed. ...And hit the market 2 month later than announced. And we don't speak here from a MULTI MILLION MEGA PLAYER - of course not. Samsung is a very small and limited Company. Ahhh and how many apps are there for Tizen?