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14:37:14 <veskuh_> #info Internally in RnD we mostly worry about practical issues. How to ensure the quality of contributions, both in terms of code and user experience.
14:37:27 <veskuh_> #info How to have proper guidelines and process in place, how to keep release schedules and have proper platform development kits for community.
14:37:49 <veskuh_> #info How to do customer specific features, and new devices in open setup without leaking information that is not yet public.
14:38:08 <veskuh_> other than that engineers like OSS and would like to see more of it
14:38:33 <veskuh_> business side is more complex
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14:39:05 <veskuh_> #info On the business side, the issues are mainly related to discussions with potential investors, licensees, and partners.
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14:39:49 <veskuh_> #info Some investors and partners understand how open source is beneficial to the company, but some potential licensees or investors would see open source as something that cannot be monetized
14:40:24 <veskuh_> yes, both what is value of company and if license to partners what is the value
14:41:07 <tortoisedoc> I wonder how does Red hat for example approach such problem; and would it be possible to replicate?
14:41:54 <veskuh_> tortoisedoc: I think they mostly get money from consulting, and in long term that would be potential alternative
14:41:57 <andybranson> redhat sell support, don't they?
14:42:15 <veskuh_> tortoisedoc: however, in short term we need investment or good customer
not much info, but i got confused with this "in short term" and "good customer"

I do understand current situation in Jolla and I'm aware that there are a lot of R&D their who support and prefer FOSS (maybe thus some of them left at some point). But I do not understand how it is different from situation 3 years back when they just started and how those 3 years are short term, especially if we are talking mobile OS.
In current development and business terms 3 years is not a long time but for sure it's not a short term. So basically they had enough time and saying short time just after disaster and when they face problems is not entirely true.
Even in current situation, they do twist things to present them in brighter way and give hope instead of just telling what it is, which in my opinion got them where they are.
They can't feed users with certain hopes and ask for contribution(preorders, campaigns) and on other hand behind scenes to feed contrary perspectives to investors/manufactures.

And they had announced few times partners and had a huge support on all campaigns from us(users) and still they search for "good customer" ?
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