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Originally Posted by HtheB View Post
the N900 has a pressure sensitive touchscreen many years before the iPhone..... (although it is resistive)
Correct and what was needed to make it fully usefull was 10% hardware and 90% Software. Now and would have been back then.
More evidence that Nokia lacked a vision to start an effort to put all theyr fine stuff into one killer package.
But we all know that.

What Jolla did wrong was a too euphemistical calculation on market chances. Idealism hit realworld problems and was seemingly not properly reacted to in time and in regards to fair customer relationship.
What happend was they where grinded between wanting to deliver on average joes expectations and our holy principals.

Well, again i hate to say that my "Hackers love apple products" comes from hard evidence.
Welcome to another of my social bubbles:
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You all know the CCC whichs path i follow since early VC20 childhood. Well the overwhelming majority of CCC members are using apple devices nowadays because linux is still seen as bad substitute to bsd. Most of them will not look at linux until lennart poetering has either fixed it completely or is gunned down to have a good laugh.

Frankly, they already laugh about especially us, still believing in amateurs to be able to do most of the job, instead of humping on the fastest train, taking it over from the inside and have a good time...
They loudly predicted the downfall of nokia 4 years early than we did and have not officially heard of Jolla because the interest in another puny mobil linux couldn't be lesser after meego/tizen failed.

They do not care about apples policys because they hack them away to have the nicest hardware package available and play on the most advanced and well polished system there is at the time.
The influence is obviously so big that apple in return opensourced swift recently to further attract them.
Sure the consumer devices start to lock out hacker interest (only one usb-c, locked down appstore even for desktops, etc...) and a media app of the CCC was recently blocked from the store because of apple scurity related congress talks featured there.
And you should have heard how big the laughter was 5 years ago when the apple watch was rumored first... Now many wear and hack one.

Ah yes and i know most of them appreciate apple taking 10k€ from snobbs for a gold watch to further perfection the os

But why i like to hang out here much more and often is a rather elitist and fatalistic attitude with many of them, the later especially regarding privacy and Apples obvious evilness nowadays.

Aaand i lack the detail knowledge and get horrased if i start to open my mouth over there from time to time