Thread: [Fremantle Maemo5+Harmattan Maemo6] Ring - secure and distributed voice, video and chat platform
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Originally Posted by dovf View Post
I have no experience with XMPP MUC (or whatever it's called -- using XMPP in a group- or room-oriented fashion). But that may be an indication of part of the difference -- I've never encountered a means of using XMPP for group- or room-oriented communications that is as easy as matrix is...
The current 'group chats' (MUC/Multi User Chat) in XMPP are actually just IRC chatrooms with XMPP behind it, which means they're really dumb and people just use IRC for chatroom communications instead. However, there is something in the works called 'MIX', which is what most people would think of when they think of group chats. I won't go into details because I'm not an expert on the subject, but essentially, MUC (current) is crap, MIX (future) is good. We aren't in the future yet.

Originally Posted by gaelic View Post
No. After 5mins the message will still go to nirvana. This is intended as far as I understand.
No, proper offline messaging (so messaging that actually works) is on the todo list, as I mentioned earlier in the thread.

Originally Posted by dovf View Post
Of course, that's why I am not advocating WhatsApp, which is actively blocking connections from outside its network. So I don't expect to ever see a WhatsApp-matrix bridge (any more than I expect to see a ring-WA bridge, or a tox-WA bridge, or an XMPP-WA bridge, or anything bridge with WA).
But still, if you want communication between different protocols, someone will always have to be responsible for the different bridges between those protocols, to accomodate any changes. Usually, a protocol doesn't change very often, but when it does the changes tend to be quite large, so if no one or not enough people are around to work on that bridge, no one will be able to cross it anymore.
 

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