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I fail to see any benefits in the no-bezel design with speakers on the back and no front camera. The e-ink keyboard mentioned later, well I can see the benefits, however I do not think this is even remotely possible with this project (let's be realistic, mind the amount of work and prototyping that would be necessary both on hardware and software sides; we should try not to drag Chen down in an impossible route).

Given the OSes planned, the phone is not meant to be used with keyboard only. If you want to give a call, you probably don't need the keyboard, and you probably don't want to use it either. Same goes with checking your email unless you plan on replying. You need to be able to interact with your phone without holding it from the keyboard. The point of the sliding keyboard system is not only to make the phone more compact when it's in your pocket, but also to make the device both a touch device and a hardware keyboard device. Remember the Lauta/N950, since this is the concept that has led to Chen's project.

Apart from the no-bezel form factor, there have been several other "exotic" ideas in the last pages here. Doesn't matter how exciting science fiction ideas of the device are (and I acknowledge that discussing them is interesting as well), I don't think this is going to happen in this project. Look how many barriers have hindered the progress of the last hardware projects here, be it the Jolla 1, the Jolla tablet, the TOHKBD, the Neo900... And none of them meant to reinvent the wheel. This is not good old Nokia with virtually enough resources to maintain small teams beside the main line developing innovating side projects for device or OSes. And heck, even them stopped doing that and killed all their ongoing side projects before the company itself committed suicide.

Chen is offering a device that probably already goes far beyond our expectations (at least it does for me, I did not see the IR, 64 GB, 4 GB RAM and multiple OS coming, and to be honest I had stopped hoping for any keyboard slider with an alternative OS long ago), I'm afraid we should jump on that unique chance and stick to it, not try to make it a Turing prototype with crazy exciting ideas that are too crazy to happen (or to have any real benefit, actually).

Hopefully this phone will be successful enough to encourage Chen continuing in this direction, and we'll see what other surprises are down this road, but let's focus on making this first iteration real rather than dreaming about the device that revolutionizes hardware in the world of smartphones. This is not about innovation and prototyping of hardware concepts here, this is about taking the best of all worlds from what already exists or has existed.

I'm sorry if this post looks arrogant and patronizing, this is absolutely not what I'm trying to do and I am myself enjoying reading ideas, but the whole thread is not very constructive if discussions focus on dream ideas rather than realistic achievable goals for Chen's device.

Last edited by Kabouik; 2017-07-30 at 19:25.
 

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