The n800 has probably been the closest to what I was looking for in a portable device. My other considering was the iPhone/iTouch but the idea of having to keep jailbreaking it with every firmware update wasn't appealing. (But the iStuff did win on media [well they lost points for iTunes for me since I hate iTunes]). Plus for what I wanted it to do, the n800 already had most of it to begin with (and the plus of using SD cards which when I buy bigger ones I can always transfer to other devices).