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Wolda	2018-06-15 , 18:09
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So keeping the offtopic:

Originally Posted by P@t

Continuing on the off-topic... and trying to be positive about France
I actually use a mobile bank website with no issue.
@wolda Cheques are disappearing rapidly so there are accepted less and less, and banks are doing their best to accelerate even further their disappearance. So do not expect to receive good service for them ;-)
Reimbursing in France often happens through bank transfer or via payment card or any web-based system (paypal...)...

So firstly, I guess I should have mentioned this dates back to 2014. I was living in France only briefly (3 months in 2012 and 3 months in 2014), so no French bank would open me an account (also, je ne parle pas francais :-\ ). Reimbursments were typically done just with IBAN bank transfers, only that campus-france scholarship was paid using those post-office cheques.

Originally Posted by P@t

Train tickets in France and the SNCF is a big subject that would need tons of text but let's say that not all French are proud of the way they work ;-)

To make sure, I was commenting about the campus-france reimbursment, no need to blame SNCF for this one. I personally think that trains (especially TGV) is one of the best French things ever, indeed only at the times when people are not striking

Originally Posted by P@t

Plus some comments
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- if you use apps, you tend to help them justify that everybody use apps so why develop the web version. While I could, I tend to avoid as much as possible using apps, especially for services like banking.

I wish I can share your optimism that our <0.01% makes any difference in recognizing that apps for every web kind of **** is wrong. I mean, I fully agree with you, but I'd call it naive to think anybody notices us.

Originally Posted by P@t

- some justification I read on using apps like not entering password & username... Username & password are stored for me so this is a one-button-click to access to my bank account (there are other securities for sensitive actions). Are people that lazy to be so tired about clicking on a button? Adding a beneficiary is also possible with my bank through the mobile version (how often do you do that anyway...).

That's definitely one of the "features" I'm screaming about while sleeping!

Originally Posted by P@t

- I also have a sort of web bank account (revolut) and I need an app (this is a regret). I do not see the gain, really.

I do use revolut as well, and if @Pichlo reads this and hopes for some on-topic - hey, you can't get revolut app on J1 (the version of AD is too old), but it does work in Sailfish X. Back to off-topic, they actually do have a web-interface for their business customers. From time to time, I check with them whether (at least) the paid version of the personal account would allow using the web interface but so far the answer is NOPE (and nothing is officially scheduled in this manner). BTW, have you noticed that revolut actually does not allow you to access the same account from two different installations of the app? Only the last one works, the others don't sync the transactions (i.e., it synchronizes the transaction when you first log-in, but then it assumes the local copy of the log is always the correct one) - welcome back to the 20th century. I did talk to them about this, it's a "feature", you shouldn't access your revolut account from two different "devices".

Originally Posted by P@t

I see very limited justification for using an app (except those sort of bankid system that seem to exist elsewhere).
Developers are lazy and firms are lazy (I know it is not only laziness). Why do you think they would develop mobile version if nobody are using them. Do you want to be dependent on the fact that they develop a native version for all systems that you use? Because the next stop is that you must use an app and that the desktop version is also abandoned.
I see the same trend for other services like transport information services where the mobile version are less and less developed because people are using apps. When there are open API, that is ok but then that is not so always the case...

Well, we can write here screens of text about this, but, let be honest here: the "app way" is still growing, and there is no real-life reason why it should stop. A majority of the users are happy about this, and since there are basically just two OSes you need to develop your thing for, and most of the work is done via HTML anyways, I can imagine that many software companies are quite happy too. I doubt a group of some kind of weird opensource-obcessed academic-ish nerds has chance to convince the majority what's wrong with that.

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