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endsormeans
2018-08-02 , 00:40
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yup...
In fact ...lets summarize all the points.
(I don't think I have missed any..
If any can think of any more...
mention them please..
regardless of "for" or "against" ...and I will add them..)
1- refundable preorder to non-refundable quasi-donation
1a- and yes the price ballooned to double...expect it to not stop there due to ..
1b- the needed "donating individuals" to begin it being viable to produce were initially stated at around ~800. the last known figure which is dated now was current "donating individuals" standing... (which is severely dated was) ~350 "donating individuals".
Naturally include since that time some new investors who have joined that preorder list.
And a greater number who are balking at further investment or have abandoned the hope of any end product and moved on.
(valid reasons being 2, 2a, 2b, 2c, 3, 3a, 3b, 3c, and 3d )
1c- the schematics and other aspects perhaps may be transparent as the claim goes...but the finances are not. There is no transparency or and seemingly no accountability to investors..erm.."donating individuals" in this regard. I have no idea anymore than the next person here ..how much is left of our "donations" ..if anything...
2- timeline is SO grossly overdue already, decade or decades ...is not inconceivable.
2a- overdue timeline also means an already outdated end product (also refer to 3 )
2b- overdue timeline also means necessary components become obsolete and so new components must be sourced, which then must be tested for compatibility and so THAT circle spins round ..unto itself.
2c- due just to the aforementioned above 2a, 2b, alone ... numbers of previous investors will not invest further. the actual number is not relevant.
there WILL be people who have had enough.
3- due to the passage of time...
it shortly will not be the "special" and "unique" device it could once have been....had it been released timely. The window of time for the neo to take advantage of...has closed.
3a- Chen's work shortly to finish to what end...has yet to be seen...but qwerty keyboard options are coming shortly...
3b- Librem 5 will have ..I believe the same ability in privacy and kill functions for a secure device. so the neo's stated unique advantage is shortly to be deployed to customers in January.
perhaps the Librem 5 will have parts that are closed (I am not certain on this one...But I doubt that they would go to so much trouble in device security and not deal with that issue) ...whereas the unmade neo at this point is stating it will not have any compromising bits...
(Personally I have already thrown $530 CDN ...away ...on the neo...whereas I COULD ACTUALLY PREORDER AND GET a Librem 5 in January with specs that dwarf the neo ...for another $70
The neo is guesstimated at what again? Someone else say that figure....so it sinks in and they hear it with their own ears...from their own mouth...
and the neo isn't finished with that guesstimate ...
it has no ceiling in it's potential end cost .)
3c- advancements made by PM and UT are continuing ...inevitably they will be primetime and on devices manufactured and shipped long before the neo is HALF finished.
3d- Between Sailfish, PM, and UT working toward running other os's and their apps... and between the Leste project working on modernizing the maemo os ...and moving toward the same goal of operating on other devices INCLUDING the n900 and possibly the n8x0 even...which have resistive displays...
all of the aforementioned...combined...
means that there is no "special" aspect that isn't available elsewhere ..shortly......at a much more sane price.
Considering all the above (so far) stated points of issue...
I think at this point the answer to "why people wish to support any further and HOPE to get an unobtainium coated neo900 ?"
is an overwhelmingly simple matter,
of a differentiation between those who have at least a minimal grasp of reality,
and those who have a disassociation and disconnect with it.
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