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I took civil and criminal law back in the day during my "what do I want to grow up to be phase" of university and college days..
and for what its worth ..

First.
That is really stretching referring to the "maemo terms of use" to justify your stance DDark

Second.
Suing for libellous statements is tricky, and even if it looks like an ironclad win, it doesn't mean it will be.
Many cases that look like a sure win, surprisingly don't.
And even winning a libel suit is a matter of viewpoint. From the moment the suit is underway and long after it is finished , it becomes a visible public issue that can take on a life of its own with many people who haven't even heard of the people involved before, drawn in to view and make up their own minds in support of either individual. The spin on this is uncontrollable, and the resulting "win" or "loss" for either of the parties may descend into a loss far greater than anyone anticipated.

Third.
On the one hand, people should not ruin others' lives by telling lies about them; but on the other hand, people should be able to speak freely without fear of litigation over every insult, disagreement, or mistake. Political and social disagreement is important in a free society, and we obviously don't all share the same opinions or beliefs. For instance, political opponents often reach opposite conclusions from the same facts, and editorial cartoonists often exaggerate facts to make their point.

Third and a half.
Considering we don't all share the same opinions and beliefs as I just mentioned previously...
Personally speaking ..
Frustration, anger, a rant here and there, and as a result the odd bit of confusion over facts is a given under circumstances such as this.
Hell, I've been there done that myself, I think everyone has.
And that is the point, glass houses and thrown rocks don't mix.

But I do suggest that freedom of speech here in the forum be not threatened with litigation and silenced.
Go down that road folks and this place just will not survive.

In fact, if either of the 2 individuals (or anyone else in the future wishes to do so in this forum, whether related or unrelated to this particular discussion or not) here wish to pursue legal action over statements made here, or threaten legal action with the sole intention to gag freedom of speech, I would then see it as a necessity to be a very vocal individual in the lifetime banning of both individuals from TMO, and insist all related threads of theirs be immediately archived to preserve for the courts, to prevent their editing and alteration, and to curtail any further undermining of the right to freedom of speech here.
And bluntly put, if either or both wish to pursue the undermining of this forum's freedom of speech and it results in the destruction of this forum, I will look for any possible way to sue the freakin' shirts off of both of you.
(he said with a very very big grin with cold eyes)


Best to reiterate the facts, even if it is clicking and pasting the facts over and over to combat a confused narrative, the moment it is written.

and lastly...
from a purely personal point of view..
from my remote island ...
far far far from the madness most folks live in...

chillax Chen..
no point in getting wound up ..
at this moment shaihkritzer's angst is getting the better of him and he is just being an [fill in blank here] ..

chillax shaihkritzer...
no point in getting wound up...
at this moment Chen's work related stress levels are threatening to turn him into a [fill in blank here]

Best thing for all here is:
1- respect the right to freedom of speech.
2- respect each other.
3- tolerance for a rant or counter-rant
4- allow for the folks to cool down and for apologies, kiss and make up, flowers, and chocolates...(please remember everyone, my personal favourite is Lindt chocolates for when my turn comes around again...)
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