I really appreciate the reply..maybe I'm thick headed...but i can't for the life of me understand kate's blog entry..and I'm sure it's the fact that I'm a novice...I didn't think you needed a seprate server running ubuntu..??? if I read all the way thru the entry, it references just that--and the dhcp vs static stuff is clear as mud to me... I want to use dhcp...but the instructions reference using static config..? sorry in advance for the whine