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Originally Posted by thepimpdaddy View Post
So, here are the noob questions:

1. when you open rDesktop, is this app supposed to have a top o' screen drop-down menu available allowing access to rDesktop program components and options? Mine simply pops up with the "Connection Details" window, and looks for the fill-in information before attempting a connection. You cannot minimize this window without shutting down rDesktop. So where's the app menu? Isn't there one?
No, there isn't; the blank white window behind the dialog is just for show, essentially. After you fill in the details (and supposing it can connect), another window (fullscreen, always-on-top) takes over, and the RDP session is in there.

[/quote]2. Since I want to use Bluetooth as my connection rather than wireless/IP, what information is rDesktop looking for in the following fields:
a.RDP server - Should I enter the PAN IP address (192.168.1.50, automatically assigned to my desktop's USB adapter by BlueSoleil bt application), or the MAC address of my desktop's USB Bluetooth adapter as RDP server? Or some other indetifier I haven't thought of? Again, since I'm not using my WLAN, it shouldn't be looking for a WLAN adress.[/quote]You say BT instead of wireless/IP; understand that IP is necessary for RDP, and BT is in fact wireless, so that's not especially meaningful I haven't used PAN, but if that's what you're using, you need both machines on the same PAN and seeing each other. Then the IP on the computer for the PAN connection is indeed what you need, but I'm only 99% sure... I use the fqdn; I don't think this strips the hostname for auth purposes, but it might.

b.username/password/domain? Using hints from this and other boards, I established a separate user account in my DAW (Windows Xp SP2) for "Nokia N800 Tablet", with port 3389 open for RDP connections/remote desktop activated in that user profile, and permission to connect provided.
I don't really know the significance of all this; the domain especially. The user and password are the obvious, same as you would use to log in at the console. The new username, and whatever password you set, should be fine, though I'd have used my existing account.
(Oh, and I hate usernames with strange characters; they cause unpredictable problems from apps that (brokenly) misunderstand them. If you ever make a new new user, name it something like "n800"; all lowercase, no spaces, increases the chance of sliding past any brokenness.)
I gave this new user account its own password, and my DAW in all user accounts is a part of the same WLANetwork "Workgroup" - is my WLAN workgroup the "domain" that RDP is looking for? This would be strange to me, because I'm not using the wireless network for n800 access to my DAW - I'm using bt. It would seem to me more logical to enter the nickname given to my bt PAN as the "domain" . . . yes?
My computer is on a direct internet connection, so I've got a fqdn. I use the network name (i.e. fqdn less hostname), and it works. I'm using local password authentication, no domain or workgroup relevance.

Oh, why am I writing all this... I'll test stuff.

OK, no domain needed here; leave it blank. (I think it filled mine in by stripping the hostname of the fqdn.) IP address works fine instead of fqdn.

So, assuming local auth, fill in IP for the server address, fill in username and password, and leave Domain blank.
BTW, I checked the SONAR 7 board, and there were a number of posts back in late '05, early '06 about people using a variety of devices - via their LANs, VNC Client and other methods (BUT NOT BLUETOOTH) for accessing the windows desktop remotely with some sort of handheld/smartphone, etc. None lately, and NONE specific to rDesktop, or the n800 (or even the n770).
We got VNCviewer, ya know. It is more stable than the GUI version of rdesktop you're using. There's a CLI version called rdesk around; you have to run it from xterm with command line arguments instead of filling in that initial dialog. But it is said to work consistently. The GUI one works perhaps one in three tries; changing some option (check/uncheck memory cards) seems to improve chances.
(None of that helps you get IP over BT of whatever form, of course. Until you can ping one machine from the other, it really doesn't matter what protocol you plan to use.)

Oh yeah, another noob question - this may be easier.

Is there some preferred suite of 3rd party maemo-deb Linux and/or Nokia apps that I will HAVE TO HAVE installed on my n800 (i.e., that rDesktop is expecting to have running in the background) before I have a prayer of getting this to work?

For example, do I need a version of Python installed EITHER as a dependency for rDesktop, or in order to allow me to do some basic editing/coding to hack a solution to the bt mystery? If so, which one?
There are no unhandled dependencies -- the underlying Debian package system sees to that.
For the BT side of things... you may need to install maemo-pan to get PAN support, if you haven't already. My inclination would be to use SPP (should be easy, I think), and run SLIP over that; but PAN might (I really don't know) be somehow better.

For whatever basic edit/code/hacking, shell scripts are all you should need, unless you get some compulsively-indenting monkey to do the hacking for you in python.
and finally - since I'm struggling so with this, is it possible that all my apps and hardware are working properly, but the nokia has a significant problem, either mechanically, or some corruption that's preventing rDesktop from working properly?
There's the instability of the GUI rdesktop, of course, as I mentioned above, but almost certainly no faults/corruption peculiar to your machine.
 

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