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Sorry sachin007, im gonna quote you poorly but as accurately as possible.

Sachin007 says along the lines of "OS2007's thumb keyboard is wonderful but OS2008's sucks. But other than that OS2008 is a lot better than 2007." That must mean his conclusion negates all the problems that was brought up!!

Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
I suspect the source of reports like robin's is the common (and misguided) perception that a few buggy things indicate an overall bad experience. Highly selective use often exacerbates that perception, whereas certain exclusive use can produce the opposite.
Key input, how is that considered exclusive use? No misguided perception here. If the OS is giving me a hard time inputing text, then it's pretty bad. But you see, I think you all STILL DO NOT UNDERSTAND. Here it is alright, in the next paragraph will say the reason that triggered my outburst against OS2008.

OS2007 does not have ANY of the problems I brought up, why does OS2008 even have it in the first place?! Furthermore, it is a BASIC feature (key input). It worked before, why not anymore? Why the sacrifice? Is that considered improvement?

For instance, I have not used the thumbboard in months so I have not seen any bugs related to it. In fact as of today after installing 51-3 the only significant problem I've seen is Maps crashing (at very bad times too). Other than that and some occasional poor responsiveness from microb OS2008 is running very nicely for me.
You talking about the virtual thumbboard or physical on the N810. Anyway you should give the virtual thumbboard a go, and if possible, try the OS2007's virtual thumbboard as well. Do you use the stylus a lot? Well try not to use it at all, not even your finger nails (works great in OS2007). Maybe then will you understand my annoyance with OS2008. Just cos you don't use it, doesn't mean the problem is not there.

You see I understand if Maps and Microb is unstable, and will not really complain because they are COMPLETELY NEW software addition to the OS. I will start complaining if they continue to suck down the line, like what im doing with OS2008 from OS2007. The touch key input problems are already working well on OS2007, it should be familiar territory to be improved on the OS2008, but not.

I don't say that to make robin feel bad
No it's all good. The bad feelings are all directed at OS2008.

-Given that some are not experiencing those bugs, I would think some of us can help you. Often bugs do not manifest in a vacuum but have underlying, and commonly hidden, causal factors
Please do help but I believe people find it easier to just say "No problem here, you are crazy."

I understand you are trying to tell the story for you and on behalf of others, but you must understand yourself that your approach can lead to entrenchment by those who have seen the opposite of your experience.
Understood.

Asking for help from those reporting a better experience than yours works much better here than tossing out blanket statements of unusability.
They can't help if they have a better experience. They need to understand the bad experience first and accept it. GeneralAntilles has already informed us that Diablo will have these problems fixed. So we gotta wait for OS2009, while there is OS2008 with touch going random places.

Blanket statement? Again, what more do you want?
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...t=16365&page=3

Screen tap goes to random places / Especially when typing fast on full screen keyboard
One key input causing multiple repeats
High pressure sensitivity with no configuration
Finger tap not bringing up finger keyboard

*EDIT*oh yeah shorter battery life span in OS2008 */EDIT*

I could search through the forum for more threads and bugs.maemo.org . What else do you want me to do? Please do tell.

So if no one cares about bugs.maemo.org , and no one cares about people posting problems in forums. Then I guess who cares then. I guess there's no problem then.

Damn, all this typing for nothing. I'll just keep using the eventually obseleted OS2007 until OS2009 then, assuming that I can see the future and problems will be fixed. Oh what am I talking about? What problem? N810 OS2008 WIMAX ULTIMATE COLLECTORS EDITION!! WOOOO!!! Here's my $500 with that promotional discount, Nokia, you are awesome!! OPEN SOURCE!! (with some proprietary components) WOOOO!!!

Man posting on forums is time consuming. Got carried away again.

SUMMARY:
OS2007 have very good virtual thumb keyboard (good skin detection). Can type much faster with no/very few mistype than Ipod Touch . Newer version should be even better then! Wrong! OS2008 is difficult to use without stylus or finger nail or physical keyboard. Imagine N810 with a prettier OS2007 with good virtual keyboard, with no physical keyboard, how thin would it be.

Last edited by robin; 2008-04-02 at 19:06.