Thanx. mathcbox-remote sounds much safer to try than matchbox-remove. :-) Good to know. Yeah, I looked into the vnc code, but it's pretty involved, so I haven't found it yet. Right now, it's not that important. I tweaked the gngeo code so it exits on esc and home. If you hit home to exit, it hides xgngeo, but I personally don't use xgngeo. :-) xmaeme isn't as nice, but it has a smaller memory footprint, and I still have my 770. :-) Thanx for the matchbox-remote and kciconsbox hints! Those are great! desiv