I'm also a fan of the cheap palm. I still use my Zire 31 to listen to audiobooks. (Something the N800 can't do properly yet). I was given a Treo 600 that I used for quite a while, but the earphone needs special jack that I keep losing, so I went back to the Zire 31. I like the Palms instant on and off and its durability. If Palm had actually built and sold the Folio, I probably never would have bought the N800.