Wait a minute, I've seen lot's of posts that 'people who want to post about the nxxx vs the ixxxxx' should append to en existing thread, now Sir Felix did and you don't give him props? (even little props?)

(for the record, I appreciate these nxxx vs ixxxxx threads because I feel I leave them more informed. I'm not married to any device. I want it (my device of the day or month or year) to just do what I want.)

So I'd like to say thanks to Sir Felix for adding his thoughts to an existing thread on the topic.

I'd also like to say that while 'fanboys' is dismissive, there are folks on this same board who have contributed to a thread positing that folks who want to compare ITs with iXXXXXXs should be automatically shunted to some other (presumably relegated to the netherworlds) thread. So there is some unwillingness to acknowledge that all these devices are of interest to a swath of us (which leads to the fanboy claim, I think).

And "fanboys" cuts both ways, more often towards dismissing apple supporters (not necessarily here, but in general usage). I loathe apple, and I can't embrace OSX (or 9 or 8, I left at 7 and have tried every major release since, I am still trying with the mac pro that sits unused in my office (sweet ubuntu 8.04 machine, by the way)).

But I do hear some nice things about the iPhone/touch. I don't think I am a heretic (here), but I do find the iPhone more appealing as time goes on... And did I mention that it is supposedly getting GPS and 3G and a price cut to $200 through AT&T stores come this June????

The iPhone/touch isn't the awesome linux pc that sits in my pocket and runs for days on end, but it may live next to it as the internet access machine that sits in my pocket for always available internet access.

Not to layer this more, but looking to get a SERO plan to make either my n800 or n810 truly always useful, I ended up having to look at the mogul or the touch or the centro, all of which were trying to do most of what the n8xx does. I was left non-plussed. The centro has buttons so small I can't use them, and the others run windows mobile. Argh. iPhone supporters don't seem so out of touch now (no iTouch pun intended).