Well, thanks for the help but I think I am going to have to reformat and try another day from square one on a re-flashed N800. I currently am using the sudo method by adding the user ALL line via visudo above all the other user ALL lines and am still unable to launch debian apps via hildon. And after a few changes and reboots I am not even able to find apps via the debbie script. Originally debbie script would launch the hilda script and a debian app but ask for a password, now the debbie script can not even find the hilda script or debian apps. Frustrating, but hopefully I can get this working sometime. I like the challenge, but sometimes I wish the solutions would just work. Thanks johnx for putting together this debian tarball, and everyone else for the suggestions.