Okay, am I to take it there is no community for Ubuntu users who hate command lines? Because if there isn't I might just set one up. I'm sorry but I just do not think that's true. I haven't used "start - run" for about ten years and I doubt most people ever use it. The last time I did use it was when a tech support person asked me to, otherwise it would never have occured to me to use a text-based command in an icon-driven interface. The problem with text based commands is that you have to know what the commands are off by heart, unless you want to keep typing "help" every time you use it. Icons and menus mean you don't have to have any prior knowledge, all your options are presented to you. That's why they're called "menus", they tell you everything that's available just like a restaurant menu. They're all amateurs compared to this lot: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HSQeMBzHR0o